July 15, 2023
S6 E7: It's Not Easy Being Green: The Story of Frog Fungal Disease

Hello and welcome to Cause of Death – 100 Seconds to Midnight. Before we get started, I want to welcome my latest Patron to the family. Welcome Elizabeth! I’m so happy to have you here! I thought that since we talked about White Nose Disease in bats...
Hello and welcome to Cause of Death – 100 Seconds to Midnight. Before we get started, I want to welcome my latest Patron to the family. Welcome Elizabeth! I’m so happy to have you here! I thought that since we talked about White Nose Disease in bats last time, we could just hop on over to Frog Fungal Disease this time. There is nothing like going to the river in spring. The frogs are sending their mating calls back and forth. The males are trying to sing their best songs to attract females, and they’re measuring up the other males to see if they really want to battle for the female they’ve chosen. Frogs are both a keystone species and an indicator species in their environments. Keystone species are vital to their environments. If we lose a keystone species, the entire ecosystem will fail. Frogs provide food for several species including birds, fish, monkeys and snakes. As tadpoles, they eat algae which helps regulate blooms and reduce the risk of algal contamination. As they metamorphose from tadpoles into frogs, they become more carnivorous, and this means that they eat a lot of bugs. They can eat up to 100 insects in a day. O.K., so not quite as impressive as the bat, but still, that’s a lot of bugs. The larger the frog, the larger the prey. Some species can eat animals as big as snakes and birds. So, maybe you didn’t want to hear that part, but it does show that frogs are an important part of the food chain as predator and prey. Frogs are also an indicator species. If you listen to the Greed and Avarice episode on chemical spills and the environment, I talked a bit about researchers walking the stream where the train derailment occurred in Ohio. They were looking for dead fish and frogs. You can reach me on the website at http://www.causeofdeath100secs.net or you can email me at mailto:Jackie@causeofdeath100secs.net. My Link Tree can be found at: https://linktr.ee/CauseofDeathpod You can support Cause of Death here: Subscribe on Apple Subscriptions Patreon: https://www.Patreon.com/JackieMoranty Ko-Fi: https://www.ko-fi.com/causeofdeathluckycharmsunplugg Merch can be found at: https://www.teepublic.com/user/causeofdeathluckycharmsunplugged Frog Fungal Disease Show Notes: https://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/fulltext/S0169-5347(09)00241-9 https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.1176765 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1286457910002480 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0062146 https://www.int-res.com/abstracts/dao/v77/n2/p113-118 https://www.dcceew.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/c-disease_1.pdf https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.95.15.9031 https://www.amphibianark.org/the-crisis/chytrid-fungus/ https://savethefrogs.com/why-frogs/ https://auduboninternational.org/why-we-should-love-frogs-and-how-to-encourage-them-on-your-property/ https://phys.org/news/2017-05-frogs.html https://uspest.com/blog/know-frogs-important-ecosystem/ https://www.citizen-times.com/story/life/family/2020/04/08/nature-center-notes-frogs-key-wncs-ecosystem/2883862001/ https://www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/content/dam/pubs_ext_vt_edu/420/420-527/CNRE-87.pdf Kilpatrick, A. Marm, et al. “The Ecology and Impact of Chytridiomycosis: An Emerging Disease of Amphibians.” Trends in Ecology & Evolution, vol. 25, no. 2, Feb. 2010, pp. 109–118, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tree.2009.07.011. Voyles, J., et al. “Pathogenesis of Chytridiomycosis, a Cause of Catastrophic Amphibian Declines.” Science, vol. 326, no. 5952, 22 Oct. 2009, pp. 582–585, https://doi.org/10.1126/science.1176765. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/biochemistry-genetics-and-molecular-biology/batrachochytrium https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2017.00290/full Global Invasive Species Database (2023) Species profile: Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis. Downloaded from http://www.iucngisd.org/gisd/species.php?sc=123 on 08-07-2023. https://cisr.ucr.edu/invasive-species/chytrid-fungus...
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it. Today, we're talking about frog
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fungal disease. It's also known as
amphibian citridiomycosis. There is nothing like going
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to the river in spring, the
frogs are sending their mating calls back and
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forth. The males are trying to
sing the best songs to attract females,
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and they're measuring up the other males
to see if they really want to battle
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for the female they've chosen. When
you think about it, frogs aren't only
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important to ecosystems. They're important to
the natural rhythm of life. I thought
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that since we talked about white nose
disease and bats last time, we could
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just hop on over to frog fungal
disease this time. Let's begin with ideology
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and pathology. Batochochytrium dendrobades or B
D is a chitridiomcata. BD has two
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life stages, a motile zoospore and
a spherical, reproductive sessile zoosporangium. The
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motile zoospore directs itself and attaches to
the keratonized outer layers of its host.
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It will then absorb its flagella and
bury itself below the surface of the skin.
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In about four days, it matures
into a zoosporangia with rhizoids and produces
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and releases up to three hundred zoospores
into the environment via a discharge tube.
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Then the cycle starts a lower again. The fungus may retain the same host,
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or it may choose a different one. Frog larvae is thought to be
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a reservoir for the fungus, since
the fungus has been found in characterized mouth
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parts of frog tadpoles, but it
doesn't kill the tadpoles. Many amphibian larvae
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can survive for as long as three
years before metamorphosing. There's a lot we
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don't know about b D. It's
surmised that there may also be a symbiotic
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relationship between the fungus and some species
of salamanders and frogs, allowing them to
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be reservoirs of the disease. It
has been suggested that the fungus may be
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able to survive in non amphibian hosts
or feeding off of dead tissue until it
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can find a viable host. B
D is a diploid and primarily reproduces asexually
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and clonally by producing aquatic, uniflagellated
zoospores in a zoosporangium. Sexual reproduction of
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chytrid fungus has been associated with the
production of resistant, thick walled resting spores,
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and this leads the hypothesis that the
production of airborne spores could explain the
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widespread distribution of the fungus in relatively
pristine areas. Other research shows that the
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population structure of the fungus is largely
clonal, which would support the idea that
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the fungus lacks a sexual stage.
This gives rise to the thought that humans
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or birds could disperse the fungus over
long distances and bring that fungus into pristine
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settings. Citriteomycosis has been reported in
thirty eight amphibian species in twelve families,
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including ranid and highlid frogs, bufanid
toads, and plithontid salamanders. However,
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most of the population declines have been
confined to the montane rainforests. This fungus
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prefers cooler temperatures and grows best at
temperatures around twenty three degrees celsius, with
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slower growth occurring at around twenty eight
degrees celsius and no growth at all at
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twenty nine degrees celsius. Amphibian keratin
is used as a substrate for growth,
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and the fungus can grow for at
least one generation on cleaned epidermal keratin or
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on amphibians that have died of the
infection. A recent study by Voils and
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his team found that BD causes such
severe electrolyte imbalances in amphibians that it leads
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to an irregular heartbeat. Eventually,
their hearts just stop. The skin of
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amphibians encourages proper osmotic balance inside the
animal and regulates respiration. As the fungus
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takes over, the skin of infected
animals is less adept at transporting sodium and
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chloride ions, thus causing an electrolyte
imbalance. Sodium and potassium concentrations in the
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blood of infected frogs will drop and
more so as the infect and intensifies.
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Clinical signs of chitridiomycosis include acute death, anorexia, general malaise, and ventral
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edema. The skin may shed slaw
become arithmetis, display epidermal hyperplasia and discoloration,
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or become depigmented. Hyperkeratosis is associated
with diasdisis, and usually there will
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be evidence of secondary bacterial or fungal
infections. Primary lesions are generally limited to
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keratonized epithelial cells. Acute infections are
limited to the stratum corneum. In subacute
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and advanced stages, massive numbers of
Thallie will be found in the retain layers
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of the epidermis. Acanthosis may also
be present. This disease has very high
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mortality rate and has driven many amphibious
species to near extinction. Research suggests that
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the disease has spread globally due to
the importation of Xenopus species as pets.
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This species was imported from Africa and
many of these frogs were released in California.
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This introduced b D to naive California's
species and has consequentially wrought havoc.
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This is the only chichred fungus known
to infect vertebrates, and the host list
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is growing by the minute. Currently, it's considered an amphibian only disease,
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infecting both captive and wild animals.
This is a global threat, so if
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you're thinking of adding a new frog
tier, Amphibian habitat quarantine is important,
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as is disinfection of habitats and enclosures. Fungi as a rule love moist environments,
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so isolation of potentially contaminated animals,
enclosures, and equipment is vital help
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is on the way, though researchers
are working on cures, and of course,
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as we've learned in this season,
logistics are a large part of that.
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Wild animals are hard to treat,
and when you have a severe zoonotic
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event, it's a big deal to
get the cures to the animals, but
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it's a huge challenge to get the
cures to the right animals, and this
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case is no different. Several antifungals
work against b D, including voriconazole,
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but delivery and dosing are key.
The use of amphoteraesin b and vericonozole was
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published in Medical Mycology. At the
end of the study, it was found
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that amphoteraesin was toxic at the acute
stage in tadpoles, but vericonozole was non
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toxic even at high dose levels.
Vericonozole also remained stable in water, and
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after a seven day exposure period,
domesticated elites sister nazii frogs that had been
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sprayed with the treatment for seven days
were infection free. The experiment also included
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treatment of an infected colony of naturally
infected poisoned dart frogs, and that experiment
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was also successful. Several other treatments
have been suggested, but many of them
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would cause adverse reactions in the animals. Some of these treatments included soaking the
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animals in formaldehyde and malachite green,
raising the temperature in the enclosure to thirty
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seven degrees celsius, and treatment with
fluconazole and benzoiconium chloride. Any of these
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treatments would work, but they would
have long term adverse effects on the frogs.
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Itraconazole treatment would be successful, but
the animals would have to be soaked
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in the solution for at least five
minutes over a period of several days.
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Itraconazole isn't something that's readily available,
and this process would be very labor intensive
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and not easily delivered in the wild. For any of these treatment measures,
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the biggest problem is delivering these treatments
in the wild without affecting other species in
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the environment. That's the biggest problem
with any of the wildlife diseases that we've
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talked about this season. Treatment of
one species doesn't mean that you don't end
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up dosing the whole stream and the
fish don't need for a conozole. We
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all have bacteria that grows on our
skin and in our gut, and this
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bacteria serves as a barrier between us
and some of the pathogens that can invade
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our bodies. This is called a
microbiome. Frogs have it too, and
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while BD is resistant to most of
the bacteria that grows on frogs to protect
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them, there are a few that
have been studied that could confer resistance to
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the fungus. I'm planning a whole
season on the microbiome, but for now,
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I want to talk about two bacteria
that exhibit antifungal properties. Genetho Bacterium
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levidium in the family oxalo Bacteriasia and
Ceratia marcises in the family your Sinia asia.
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Researchers studied these two bacteria and found
that they produce antifungal metabolites biasin and
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protegeacin. Both comprimise the integrity of
the fungal cell membrane, and protegiacin can
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also inhibit RNA and protein synthesis in
bacteria. Several antifungal bacteria have been found
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in cold spots across the globe,
and it seems that the frogs who live
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in regions where BD is imprevalent to
have a higher degree of antifungal bacteria living
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on their bodies. This helps the
animals in three ways. First of all,
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they produce antibed metabolites. Secondly,
they produce a protective biofilm on the
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frog's skin surface, and lastly,
there is a host mediated selection for the
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antibed metabolite producing bacteria on the animal's
skin. Many of these bacteria live in
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the soil, so that can also
be a protective measure by not allowing the
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fungus to proliferate in the environment.
While research is ongoing, these studies offer
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some hope of a possibility of transferring
some of these antifungal bacteria to frogs living
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in high spots. Okay, we're
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Korean Peninsula, where it grew and
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the nineteen fifties during the Korean War, humans brought it to the rest of
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the world. Mass die offs were
noted in the nineteen seventies in the French
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Pyrenees, where the midwife frogs would
climb out of their birth legs and barely
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make it to shore before dying.
Biologist Matt Fisher described these events as quote,
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they'll do one last hop, then
they'll expire in your hands. You
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can walk the lakes. It's just
carpets of dead frogs end quote. Researchers
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didn't realize these dieoffs were related to
BD until nineteen ninety seven, when the
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connection was made. From two thousand
and four to two thousand and eight,
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a site in Panama lost forty one
percent of their amphibian species to b D.
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In two and seventeen, Jennifer Shelton
began exploring the mountains of Taiwan.
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She was looking for infected salamanders.
When anyone on her team found a sick
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amphibian, they snipped off one of
the animal's toes brought it back to the
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lab. Okay, before anyone gets
upset about the toe snipping. Snipping off
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a toe is a non lethal way
to get a skin sample, so after
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the toe was removed, the animal
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Researchers would then bring the toe back
into the lab and put it in a
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petrie dish to see what grew.
As the fungus grew, the researchers were
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able to sequence its DNA one hundred
and seventy seven b D genomes from around
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the world were combined with fifty seven
previously published ones. Two hundred and thirty
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four genomes revealed that there were four
distinct lineages in the family tree. The
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samples from the Korean Peninsula showed the
greatest genetic diversity of any of the other
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samples taken, and this is what
told them exactly what they needed to know.
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The Korean Peninsula is where it all
began. That was ground zero for
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b D. They then calculated the
mutation rate for the fungus and this told
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them that the ancestor of today's BD
line emerged out of Asia in the early
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twentieth century. This lineage is referred
to as the global panzootic lineage. A
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lethal strain called BD GPL. Human
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spread of BD. Shipping, live
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and pet industries. They all gave
rise to a global zoonotic event. During
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the Korean War, frogs would hitch
rides on equipment being moved from one place
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to another, even if the fungus
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species of BD, known as B. Salamandra four ends, killed ninety nine
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percent of the Dutch fire salamanders from
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twelve. This spurred US Wildlife officials
to ban the importation of two hundred and
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one salamander species into the US in
an effort to keep B. Sal out
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of the country, but during a
US Court of Appeals ruling, it was
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decided that if the animals were already
in the country, their sales couldn't be
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banned, so they could and still
can, be transported anywhere in the US.
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Now, researchers are studying the inevitability
that less virulent strains of BD could
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come together and make a super virulent
strain of BD. This has already begun
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to happen a Brazilian strain of BD
mixed with the current virulent BDGPL, and
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the results were disastrous. It's been
considered that all amphibian trades should be banned
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globally, and wildlife conservationists are particularly
arguing this in the US. Currently,
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US Fish and Wildlife are monitoring the
spread of B D across the States,
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but they argue that since the disease
is already here. There is little that
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a ban would do to stop the
spread. Matt Fisher disagrees he would love
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to see a global ban on the
amphibian pet trade. Quote. Do we
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really need to be mining our environments
for organisms and selling them around the world
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for financial profit, just so we
can keep them in terrariums in our living
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rooms and say, hey, that's
cool. It seems like a fairly innocent
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pastime. But we are putting entire
ecosystems at risk. End quote. We
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are indeed putting entire ecosystems at Frogs
are a very important part of the world
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around us. Like bats, several
habitats depend on frogs for survival. Frogs
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are both a keystone species and an
indicator species in their environments. If we
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lose a keystone species, the entire
ecosystem will fail. Frogs provide food for
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several species, including birds, fish, monkeys, and snakes. As tadpoles,
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they eat algae, which helps regulate
blooms and reduce the risk of algal
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contamination. As they metamorphose from tadpoles
into frogs, they become more carnivorous,
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and this means that they eat a
lot of bugs. They can eat up
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to one hundred insects in a day. Okay, so this isn't quite as
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impressive as the bat, but still
that's a lot of bugs. The larger
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the frog, the larger the prey. Some species can eat animals as big
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as snakes and birds. Okay,
so maybe you didn't want to hear that
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part, but it does show that
frogs are an important part of the food
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chain as predator and prey. Frogs
are also an indicator species. If you
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listen to the Greed and Avarice episode
on chemical spills and the Environment, I
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talked a bit about researchers walking the
stream where the train derailment occurred in Ohio.
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They were looking for dead fish and
frogs. Frogs need clean habitats to
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survive. They need clean water and
clean soil. Anything that affects their environment
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will kill them. If the pH
goes too high or too low, frogs
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can't survive. This is what happened
immediately after the train derailment. There were
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many many frogs and fish found dead
after the event, and it told researchers
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and clean up crews that the water
was contaminated. People can't survive without clean
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water either. Go back to the
episode on the global water crisis, I
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talk a lot about how pollutants can
affect a water supply. If the frogs
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are gone, the water isn't safe
for anyone. That's what indicator species do.
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They tell us if our environment is
safe. Okay, we're going to
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go on to some trivia. Now. Back in the nineteen twenties, African
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clod frogs were used to see if
a woman was pregnant. The frog would
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be injected with urine from a woman, and if the frog produced eggs within
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twenty four hours, the woman was
pregnant. Today, the African cloud frog
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is still used in vertebrate embryology research. The females are prolific egg layers,
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and their eggs are transparent, so
it's easy to observe the growth patterns of
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the larvae. Epibatadine is a pain
killer that's two hundred times more potent than
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morphine. It's also the venom of
some poisoned dart frogs. People can't take
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ebibedodine for pain right now because it's
toxic to humans even in small doses,
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but research is ongoing to see if
there is a way to use it as
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a compound for pain killers. It's
a possibility that ebabatadine could be used topically
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when combined with another substance to relieve
pain. I'm going to take you back
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to middle school for just a minute. Remember when you were stuck in a
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biology class and the first thing they
made you do is dissect a frog.
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I know many of you got pretty
grossed out, but my biology teacher was
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pretty good. I remember looking at
the parts and pieces and trying to figure
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out how the body worked, especially
the muscles of the legs. That's what
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frog dissection was really about for me, learning how muscles worked, learning the
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attachments and what propelled the frog through
life. I learned a lot about muscle
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structure from frogs, and it was
my first look at a complex organ system.
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The dissection of frogs also gives us
insight into evolution. How does an
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organism go from living in water to
living on land? Frogs teach us that.
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Now. I'm not going to tell
you to go out and find a
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frog to dissect. Most of you
don't want to know how complex organ systems
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work. You just want to know
that they do work, and that's just
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fine. Leave the dissection to me. So I can figure out how to
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keep your organ systems working the way
they should. Thank you again for listening
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to Cause of Death one hundred seconds
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in season six, Who's Who Outside
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to take a break, but that's
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just don't make a lot of sense. It'll be a lot of fun and
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I hope you join us, join
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encroachment on wildlife and the negative effects
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Because of Crime is a true crime
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crime. We focus on the killers, we focus on the disappearances, We
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focus on them murderers, so we
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but dive into theories. We dive
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But we also give our opinions and
we banter and we talk about it and
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we give different points of view because
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Cause of crime is the focus on
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alive, keep their stories going,
keep their memories going. If they're long
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gone from this world or we just
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We want to keep them talked about, and that is our singular goal.
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I created this podcast for this reason
and one reason only, to keep
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talking about people that need to be
talked about, to keep doing this and
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using my voice to make sure I'm
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Death. One hundred seconds to midnight. I'm your host, Jackie Morante.
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to thank all of you for the
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was sick. For those of you
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little health mishap. What started as
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then quickly ended up as pneumonia.
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for sticking with me. I apologize
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had to sleep it off for a
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We're almost finished with season six Who's
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there will be two more episodes.
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and be back with season seven.
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that one. For those of you
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midnight episodes, I hope you enjoy
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really like doing research on those episodes. It's interesting to explore the topics that
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could change the world as we know
it. Today, we're talking about frog
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fungal disease. It's also known as
amphibian citridiomycosis. There is nothing like going
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to the river in spring, the
frogs are sending their mating calls back and
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forth. The males are trying to
sing the best songs to attract females,
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and they're measuring up the other males
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for the female they've chosen. When
you think about it, frogs aren't only
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important to ecosystems. They're important to
the natural rhythm of life. I thought
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that since we talked about white nose
disease and bats last time, we could
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just hop on over to frog fungal
disease this time. Let's begin with ideology
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and pathology. Batochochytrium dendrobades or B
D is a chitridiomcata. BD has two
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life stages, a motile zoospore and
a spherical, reproductive sessile zoosporangium. The
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motile zoospore directs itself and attaches to
the keratonized outer layers of its host.
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It will then absorb its flagella and
bury itself below the surface of the skin.
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In about four days, it matures
into a zoosporangia with rhizoids and produces
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and releases up to three hundred zoospores
into the environment via a discharge tube.
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Then the cycle starts a lower again. The fungus may retain the same host,
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or it may choose a different one. Frog larvae is thought to be
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a reservoir for the fungus, since
the fungus has been found in characterized mouth
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parts of frog tadpoles, but it
doesn't kill the tadpoles. Many amphibian larvae
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can survive for as long as three
years before metamorphosing. There's a lot we
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don't know about b D. It's
surmised that there may also be a symbiotic
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relationship between the fungus and some species
of salamanders and frogs, allowing them to
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be reservoirs of the disease. It
has been suggested that the fungus may be
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able to survive in non amphibian hosts
or feeding off of dead tissue until it
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can find a viable host. B
D is a diploid and primarily reproduces asexually
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and clonally by producing aquatic, uniflagellated
zoospores in a zoosporangium. Sexual reproduction of
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chytrid fungus has been associated with the
production of resistant, thick walled resting spores,
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and this leads the hypothesis that the
production of airborne spores could explain the
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widespread distribution of the fungus in relatively
pristine areas. Other research shows that the
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population structure of the fungus is largely
clonal, which would support the idea that
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the fungus lacks a sexual stage.
This gives rise to the thought that humans
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or birds could disperse the fungus over
long distances and bring that fungus into pristine
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settings. Citriteomycosis has been reported in
thirty eight amphibian species in twelve families,
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including ranid and highlid frogs, bufanid
toads, and plithontid salamanders. However,
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most of the population declines have been
confined to the montane rainforests. This fungus
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prefers cooler temperatures and grows best at
temperatures around twenty three degrees celsius, with
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slower growth occurring at around twenty eight
degrees celsius and no growth at all at
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twenty nine degrees celsius. Amphibian keratin
is used as a substrate for growth,
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and the fungus can grow for at
least one generation on cleaned epidermal keratin or
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on amphibians that have died of the
infection. A recent study by Voils and
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his team found that BD causes such
severe electrolyte imbalances in amphibians that it leads
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to an irregular heartbeat. Eventually,
their hearts just stop. The skin of
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amphibians encourages proper osmotic balance inside the
animal and regulates respiration. As the fungus
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takes over, the skin of infected
animals is less adept at transporting sodium and
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chloride ions, thus causing an electrolyte
imbalance. Sodium and potassium concentrations in the
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blood of infected frogs will drop and
more so as the infect and intensifies.
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Clinical signs of chitridiomycosis include acute death, anorexia, general malaise, and ventral
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edema. The skin may shed slaw
become arithmetis, display epidermal hyperplasia and discoloration,
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or become depigmented. Hyperkeratosis is associated
with diasdisis, and usually there will
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be evidence of secondary bacterial or fungal
infections. Primary lesions are generally limited to
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keratonized epithelial cells. Acute infections are
limited to the stratum corneum. In subacute
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and advanced stages, massive numbers of
Thallie will be found in the retain layers
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of the epidermis. Acanthosis may also
be present. This disease has very high
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mortality rate and has driven many amphibious
species to near extinction. Research suggests that
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the disease has spread globally due to
the importation of Xenopus species as pets.
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This species was imported from Africa and
many of these frogs were released in California.
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This introduced b D to naive California's
species and has consequentially wrought havoc.
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This is the only chichred fungus known
to infect vertebrates, and the host list
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is growing by the minute. Currently, it's considered an amphibian only disease,
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infecting both captive and wild animals.
This is a global threat, so if
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you're thinking of adding a new frog
tier, Amphibian habitat quarantine is important,
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as is disinfection of habitats and enclosures. Fungi as a rule love moist environments,
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so isolation of potentially contaminated animals,
enclosures, and equipment is vital help
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is on the way, though researchers
are working on cures, and of course,
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as we've learned in this season,
logistics are a large part of that.
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Wild animals are hard to treat,
and when you have a severe zoonotic
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event, it's a big deal to
get the cures to the animals, but
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it's a huge challenge to get the
cures to the right animals, and this
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case is no different. Several antifungals
work against b D, including voriconazole,
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but delivery and dosing are key.
The use of amphoteraesin b and vericonozole was
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published in Medical Mycology. At the
end of the study, it was found
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that amphoteraesin was toxic at the acute
stage in tadpoles, but vericonozole was non
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toxic even at high dose levels.
Vericonozole also remained stable in water, and
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after a seven day exposure period,
domesticated elites sister nazii frogs that had been
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sprayed with the treatment for seven days
were infection free. The experiment also included
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treatment of an infected colony of naturally
infected poisoned dart frogs, and that experiment
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was also successful. Several other treatments
have been suggested, but many of them
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would cause adverse reactions in the animals. Some of these treatments included soaking the
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animals in formaldehyde and malachite green,
raising the temperature in the enclosure to thirty
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seven degrees celsius, and treatment with
fluconazole and benzoiconium chloride. Any of these
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treatments would work, but they would
have long term adverse effects on the frogs.
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Itraconazole treatment would be successful, but
the animals would have to be soaked
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in the solution for at least five
minutes over a period of several days.
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Itraconazole isn't something that's readily available,
and this process would be very labor intensive
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and not easily delivered in the wild. For any of these treatment measures,
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the biggest problem is delivering these treatments
in the wild without affecting other species in
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the environment. That's the biggest problem
with any of the wildlife diseases that we've
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talked about this season. Treatment of
one species doesn't mean that you don't end
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up dosing the whole stream and the
fish don't need for a conozole. We
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all have bacteria that grows on our
skin and in our gut, and this
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bacteria serves as a barrier between us
and some of the pathogens that can invade
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our bodies. This is called a
microbiome. Frogs have it too, and
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while BD is resistant to most of
the bacteria that grows on frogs to protect
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them, there are a few that
have been studied that could confer resistance to
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the fungus. I'm planning a whole
season on the microbiome, but for now,
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I want to talk about two bacteria
that exhibit antifungal properties. Genetho Bacterium
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levidium in the family oxalo Bacteriasia and
Ceratia marcises in the family your Sinia asia.
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Researchers studied these two bacteria and found
that they produce antifungal metabolites biasin and
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protegeacin. Both comprimise the integrity of
the fungal cell membrane, and protegiacin can
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also inhibit RNA and protein synthesis in
bacteria. Several antifungal bacteria have been found
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in cold spots across the globe,
and it seems that the frogs who live
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in regions where BD is imprevalent to
have a higher degree of antifungal bacteria living
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on their bodies. This helps the
animals in three ways. First of all,
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they produce antibed metabolites. Secondly,
they produce a protective biofilm on the
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frog's skin surface, and lastly,
there is a host mediated selection for the
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antibed metabolite producing bacteria on the animal's
skin. Many of these bacteria live in
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the soil, so that can also
be a protective measure by not allowing the
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fungus to proliferate in the environment.
While research is ongoing, these studies offer
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some hope of a possibility of transferring
some of these antifungal bacteria to frogs living
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This disease existed for centuries in the
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Korean Peninsula, where it grew and
prospered on its own. Then sometime in
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the nineteen fifties during the Korean War, humans brought it to the rest of
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the world. Mass die offs were
noted in the nineteen seventies in the French
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Pyrenees, where the midwife frogs would
climb out of their birth legs and barely
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make it to shore before dying.
Biologist Matt Fisher described these events as quote,
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they'll do one last hop, then
they'll expire in your hands. You
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can walk the lakes. It's just
carpets of dead frogs end quote. Researchers
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didn't realize these dieoffs were related to
BD until nineteen ninety seven, when the
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connection was made. From two thousand
and four to two thousand and eight,
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a site in Panama lost forty one
percent of their amphibian species to b D.
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In two and seventeen, Jennifer Shelton
began exploring the mountains of Taiwan.
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She was looking for infected salamanders.
When anyone on her team found a sick
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amphibian, they snipped off one of
the animal's toes brought it back to the
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lab. Okay, before anyone gets
upset about the toe snipping. Snipping off
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a toe is a non lethal way
to get a skin sample, so after
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the toe was removed, the animal
could be released back into the wild.
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Researchers would then bring the toe back
into the lab and put it in a
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petrie dish to see what grew.
As the fungus grew, the researchers were
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able to sequence its DNA one hundred
and seventy seven b D genomes from around
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the world were combined with fifty seven
previously published ones. Two hundred and thirty
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four genomes revealed that there were four
distinct lineages in the family tree. The
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samples from the Korean Peninsula showed the
greatest genetic diversity of any of the other
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samples taken, and this is what
told them exactly what they needed to know.
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The Korean Peninsula is where it all
began. That was ground zero for
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b D. They then calculated the
mutation rate for the fungus and this told
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them that the ancestor of today's BD
line emerged out of Asia in the early
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twentieth century. This lineage is referred
to as the global panzootic lineage. A
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lethal strain called BD GPL. Human
activity is largely the blame for the global
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spread of BD. Shipping, live
frog pregnancy tests, the amphibian meat,
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and pet industries. They all gave
rise to a global zoonotic event. During
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the Korean War, frogs would hitch
rides on equipment being moved from one place
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to another, even if the fungus
couldn't survive without a host. A sister
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species of BD, known as B. Salamandra four ends, killed ninety nine
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percent of the Dutch fire salamanders from
two thousand and nine to two thousand and
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twelve. This spurred US Wildlife officials
to ban the importation of two hundred and
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one salamander species into the US in
an effort to keep B. Sal out
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of the country, but during a
US Court of Appeals ruling, it was
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decided that if the animals were already
in the country, their sales couldn't be
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banned, so they could and still
can, be transported anywhere in the US.
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Now, researchers are studying the inevitability
that less virulent strains of BD could
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come together and make a super virulent
strain of BD. This has already begun
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to happen a Brazilian strain of BD
mixed with the current virulent BDGPL, and
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the results were disastrous. It's been
considered that all amphibian trades should be banned
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globally, and wildlife conservationists are particularly
arguing this in the US. Currently,
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US Fish and Wildlife are monitoring the
spread of B D across the States,
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but they argue that since the disease
is already here. There is little that
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a ban would do to stop the
spread. Matt Fisher disagrees he would love
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to see a global ban on the
amphibian pet trade. Quote. Do we
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really need to be mining our environments
for organisms and selling them around the world
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for financial profit, just so we
can keep them in terrariums in our living
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rooms and say, hey, that's
cool. It seems like a fairly innocent
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pastime. But we are putting entire
ecosystems at risk. End quote. We
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are indeed putting entire ecosystems at Frogs
are a very important part of the world
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around us. Like bats, several
habitats depend on frogs for survival. Frogs
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are both a keystone species and an
indicator species in their environments. If we
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lose a keystone species, the entire
ecosystem will fail. Frogs provide food for
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several species, including birds, fish, monkeys, and snakes. As tadpoles,
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they eat algae, which helps regulate
blooms and reduce the risk of algal
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contamination. As they metamorphose from tadpoles
into frogs, they become more carnivorous,
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and this means that they eat a
lot of bugs. They can eat up
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to one hundred insects in a day. Okay, so this isn't quite as
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impressive as the bat, but still
that's a lot of bugs. The larger
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the frog, the larger the prey. Some species can eat animals as big
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as snakes and birds. Okay,
so maybe you didn't want to hear that
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part, but it does show that
frogs are an important part of the food
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chain as predator and prey. Frogs
are also an indicator species. If you
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listen to the Greed and Avarice episode
on chemical spills and the Environment, I
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talked a bit about researchers walking the
stream where the train derailment occurred in Ohio.
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They were looking for dead fish and
frogs. Frogs need clean habitats to
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survive. They need clean water and
clean soil. Anything that affects their environment
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will kill them. If the pH
goes too high or too low, frogs
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can't survive. This is what happened
immediately after the train derailment. There were
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many many frogs and fish found dead
after the event, and it told researchers
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and clean up crews that the water
was contaminated. People can't survive without clean
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water either. Go back to the
episode on the global water crisis, I
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talk a lot about how pollutants can
affect a water supply. If the frogs
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are gone, the water isn't safe
for anyone. That's what indicator species do.
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They tell us if our environment is
safe. Okay, we're going to
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go on to some trivia. Now. Back in the nineteen twenties, African
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clod frogs were used to see if
a woman was pregnant. The frog would
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be injected with urine from a woman, and if the frog produced eggs within
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twenty four hours, the woman was
pregnant. Today, the African cloud frog
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is still used in vertebrate embryology research. The females are prolific egg layers,
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and their eggs are transparent, so
it's easy to observe the growth patterns of
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the larvae. Epibatadine is a pain
killer that's two hundred times more potent than
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morphine. It's also the venom of
some poisoned dart frogs. People can't take
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ebibedodine for pain right now because it's
toxic to humans even in small doses,
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but research is ongoing to see if
there is a way to use it as
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a compound for pain killers. It's
a possibility that ebabatadine could be used topically
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when combined with another substance to relieve
pain. I'm going to take you back
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to middle school for just a minute. Remember when you were stuck in a
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biology class and the first thing they
made you do is dissect a frog.
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I know many of you got pretty
grossed out, but my biology teacher was
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pretty good. I remember looking at
the parts and pieces and trying to figure
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out how the body worked, especially
the muscles of the legs. That's what
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frog dissection was really about for me, learning how muscles worked, learning the
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attachments and what propelled the frog through
life. I learned a lot about muscle
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structure from frogs, and it was
my first look at a complex organ system.
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The dissection of frogs also gives us
insight into evolution. How does an
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organism go from living in water to
living on land? Frogs teach us that.
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Now. I'm not going to tell
you to go out and find a
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frog to dissect. Most of you
don't want to know how complex organ systems
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work. You just want to know
that they do work, and that's just
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fine. Leave the dissection to me. So I can figure out how to
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keep your organ systems working the way
they should. Thank you again for listening
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to Cause of Death one hundred seconds
to Midnight. We have two more episodes
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in season six, Who's Who Outside
of the Zoo. When this season ends,
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I'm going to take a month off
to get ahead. That means I'm
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going to be putting up more bonus
content. Also, I really didn't want
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to take a break, but that's
the only way I can get a few
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episodes ahead after having so much weird
life stuff that got me way behind.
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If you'd like to support the show, please take a look at the show
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notes for links to my Patreon page
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sign up on Apple subscriptions for bonus
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notes are a great way to look
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each episode. If you're really into
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to get your sleep schedule on track, go check out some of the links.
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There's so much information on frog fungal
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show notes. I also want to
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I are going to be launching a
new show in early October. It's called
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Diving into Unsolved History. We're going
to look at some mysteries from the past
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that are still unsolved, the Alien
More incident, the Ditluff Pass incident,
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the Marie Celeste. We're going to
talk about famous treasures that could still be
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out there, like Alaric's Treasure,
the Dresden Green Vault, Burglary, and
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Thomas Beale's ciphers. We're going to
tell you the story behind the mystery,
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look into the facts, and look
at some of the crazy theories that really
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just don't make a lot of sense. It'll be a lot of fun and
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I hope you join us, join
me next time when we look at human
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encroachment on wildlife and the negative effects
it has on species. Thanks again for
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listening, and have a great week.















