April 29, 2023
S6 E2: Don't Eat Those Brains! The Story of Chronic Wasting Disease

Who’s Who Outside of the Zoo has begun! Hello and welcome to Cause of Death – 100 Seconds to Midnight. I’m your host, Jackie Moranty. Here we are in Season Six. This season is dedicated to wildlife disease and conservation. I’ve been trying to keep...
Who’s Who Outside of the Zoo has begun! Hello and welcome to Cause of Death – 100 Seconds to Midnight. I’m your host, Jackie Moranty. Here we are in Season Six. This season is dedicated to wildlife disease and conservation. I’ve been trying to keep seasons at about 8 episodes, but this one may run a little longer. There’s a lot to talk about when it comes to wildlife disease and conservation and the way that they come together. I’ll be introducing some things that we haven’t talked about previously. Many of the diseases of wildlife are obscure and though the symptoms may sound like a virus or a bacterial infection, they could be something completely different. This brings us to today’s episode. Chronic Wasting Disease in cervids. It’s caused by an organism that we haven’t talked about before. It’s a prion. I’m the first to admit that I’m terrified of prions. They’re unpredictable, they’re incurable and they’re fatal. The worst thing about them is that they take years to manifest, so you don’t know you have one until it’s too late to do much about it. Sound terrifying? Keep listening! I’m going to be doing a special 100 Seconds to Midnight episode in Season 7. I’d like those of you who had experiences growing up during the Cold War to talk about those experiences. If you’d like to be a guest on the show, I can arrange that. If you’d rather just write your stories and send them in, that’s fine, too. I can read them. These stories are important, and they need to be heard. Please participate if you can. You can reach me on the website at http://www.causeofdeath100secs.net or you can email me at mailto:Jackie@causeofdeath100secs.net. My Link Tree can be found at: https://linktr.ee/CauseofDeathpod CWD Show Notes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5874178/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2877840/ https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.html#:~:text=Scientists%20believe%20CWD%20proteins%20(prions,of%20soil%2C%20food%20or%20water. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7173489/#:~:text=Finally%2C%20we%20discuss%20prions.,properties%20of%20size%20and%20infectiousness. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/prion-diseases https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/prion-diseases https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-a-prion-specifica/ https://www.doi.gov/ocl/chronic-wasting-disease https://www.nps.gov/articles/cwd.htm https://www.dfw.state.or.us/wildlife/health_program/chronic_wasting/ https://wildlifemanagement.institute/outdoor-news-bulletin/december-2017/what-hunters-can-do-stop-chronic-wasting-disease https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-a-prion-specifica/ https://www.deerfriendly.com/deer-disease/chronic-wasting-disease/possible-origins-of-chronic-wasting-disease https://cwd-info.org/cwd-overview/ https://cwd-info.org/timeline/ https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/wildlifedamage/programs/nwrc/sa_spotlight/accomplishments_chronic_wasting_disease...
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Here we are in season six.
This season is dedicated to wildlife disease
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and concert. I've been trying to
keep the seasons at about eight episodes,
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but this one may run a little
longer. There's a lot to talk about
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when we talk about wildlife disease and
conservation and the way they come together.
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I'll be introducing some things that we
haven't talked about previously. Many of the
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diseases of wildlife are obscured, and
though the symptoms may sound like a virus
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or a bacterial infection, they could
be something completely different. And this brings
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us to today's episode, chronic wasting
disease in servids. It's caused by an
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organism that we haven't talked about before. It's a prion. I'm the first
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to admit that I am terrified of
prions. They're unpredictable, they're incurable,
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and they're fatal. The worst thing
about them is that they take years to
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manifest, so you don't know you
have one until it's too late to do
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much about at it sound terrifying.
Keep listening. We'll begin, of course,
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with ideology and pathology. To start
at the beginning, we have to
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figure out what a prion is.
Prions only consist of proteins. There is
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no enclosed nucleic acid. They share
superficial properties of viruses, such as size
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and infectiousness, but that's as close
to a virus as they get. Prions
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have unique properties that are capable of
causing inherited, spontaneous or infectious disease.
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The prion protein PRP exists in two
confirmations, the normal harmless or cellular form
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PrPC and the pathogenic form prp SC. This form was named after scrapey,
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which is an infectious disease of sheet
I'll get to scrape in a little bit
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when I talk about the history of
chronic wasting disease, and you know there's
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going to be an episode on it
in the future when I talk about diseases
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of livestock. Trust me, the
connection between CWED and scrapey will be apparent
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before you hit stop on your podcast
player. The mechanism of disease for prions
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is very different from bacteria or viruses. It's more like peer pressure than an
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all out invasion, rogue proteins will
bind to their normal relatives and induce them
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to refold into the pathogenic confirmation.
The proteins that were misfolded to begin with
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will eventually subvert all of the normal
proteins. Once this is done, neural
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degeneration and death occur. The gene
that encodes the prion protein, the pr
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NP, can mutate, and this
may result in prions with a very high
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likelihood of misfolding. This is the
cause of hereditary prion disease. Normal prions
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are known to misfold occasionally, and
this is called spontaneous prion disease. Pathogenic
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misfolded proteins form insoluble aggregates known as
amyloids. These are fibrils consisting of protein
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with a high beta sheet content.
These beta sheets are short and form stacks
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that run sideways relative to the long
axis of the fibers. If misfolded prions
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are transmitted to another susceptible host,
the result is infectious prion disease. This
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is also called transmissible spongiform encephalopathy or
TS. This infection can be spread from
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one cell to another and one animal
to another by entry of the PRP SC
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prion. These prions can also jump
from one species to another. Did I
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mention that prions scare the crap atomy? I'm mentioning that now, right now,
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there is no effective therapy to combat
prion infection. Okay, so now
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you have the down and dirty on
prions. Let's get to chronic wasting disease.
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CWD is highly contagious. As the
infected animals shed infectious prions in feces,
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saliva, and urine, other servids
come along and pick it up.
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It's one of the most easily spread
prion infections. Again, there is no
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treatment or cure for prion infections,
but of course research is ongoing. All
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servid species are susceptible to CWD,
and this disease has spread across wild North
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American servid populations for decades. So
what is a servid? Servid species in
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North America include whitetailed deer, mule
deer or blacktailed deer, l moose,
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caribou, and reindeer. Chronic wasting
disease is a long term illness. Animals
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may remain healthy for a year or
more, but they're still shedding the disease
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and other servits are picking it up. As the disease progresses, animals show
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signs of weight loss, decreased social
interaction with the herd, loss of awareness,
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altered posture, head tremors, and
lack of coordination. CWD affects the
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brain nerves, lymph nodes, spleen, and neuroendocrin tissues. Diagnosis requires laboratory
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testing of the lymph nodes and brain
stem, and these samples must be collected
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postmortem. Live animal techniques do exist, but they're difficult to perform and they
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have a very low success rate.
We don't really know what effect CWD has
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on the wild servit population in North
America, as it can take several years
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for the disease to become evident.
Research and modeling studies published in the last
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ten years have shown that declines in
population are between ten and twenty one percent
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in several deer and elk populations.
This includes herds in Wyoming, Colorado,
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and Wisconsin. Okay, this is
one of those times when it's better to
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go back to the beginning and move
forward. You have the basic mechanism of
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disease, so that's a good start. The classic origin story of chronic wasting
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disease is that it originated at my
alma mater, Colorado State University. This
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story is now being disputed by researchers, but you'll have to wait for that
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part. Researchers were doing nutritional studies
on sheep, goats, and deer.
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Jene Schollenveld, a researcher at Colorado
State, suspects that some of the sheep
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had scrapeeet and the deer in the
experiment became infected. The prion then jumped
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after mutation and became what we call
chronic wasting disease. The deer and sheep
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were kept in the same pen from
nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy one.
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None of the animals in the experiment
ever showed symptoms of prion disease, and
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when the experiment was over, the
deer were simply released back into the wild.
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The sheep that he used came from
a scrapy experiment, but none of
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them ever showed symptoms of having the
disease. The first cases were reported after
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this experiment ended, in captive deer
that were being held on the research farm
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in Fort Collins, Colorado. Wild
populations didn't start showing symptoms until the late
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seventies and This was believed to be
malnutrition. The first confirmed diagnosis wasn't made
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until nineteen eighty one. In an
elk in Rocky Mountain Nation Park. In
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the mid eighties, researchers decided that
they were going to get rid of CWD.
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They gathered all the captives servits and
they killed them. They cleaned the
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pens and turned the soil, and
brought a helicopter in to drop chlorine onto
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the site. They didn't put animals
back in those pens for a full year
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after that. Then they brought in
healthy wild elk calves. Within two years,
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chronic wasting disease was back and the
herd was decimated. Michael Miller and
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his colleagues had failed. In an
interview with NPR, he said, quote,
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the idea at the time was that
we would do what we needed to
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do here locally to keep it from
spreading to the western slope. What we
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didn't realize is that it was actually
more widespread. It was a really nice
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idea that was probably ten, fifteen, maybe twenty years too late. End
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quote. Mule deer were then diagnosed
with the disease in both Colorado and Wyoming
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by the mid nineteen nineties, it
had spread to captive herds in Saskatchewan,
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Canada. By the year two thousand, it had spread to Nebraska, Oklahoma,
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and wild herds in Saskatchewan. In
two thousand and one, CWD was
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identified in whitetailed deer in South Dakota
and in a captive herd in Nebraska.
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By two thousand and twelve, it
had spread to Minnesota, Wisconsin, New
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Mexico, Utah, Illinois, Kansas, Virginia, North Dakota, Iowa,
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Pennsylvania, and Texas. It was
found in Ohio in twenty fourteen. In
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two thousand and fifteen, Michigan confirmed
its first case. Researchers began sampling animals
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from five to fifty kilometers outside the
facility, and most of the infections were
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occurring within the five kilometer radius.
Chronic wasting disease has an extended incubation period.
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While the exact time of incubation is
unknown, it's estimated that the priyon
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works its misfolding magic for about six
to eight months before symptoms begin. Then
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the animal can live for up to
two years before finally succumbing to the disease.
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Symptoms are often more subtle in elk
than in deer, but they remain
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the same. The animals may walk
repetitive courses, show in coordination, and
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have a wide based stance. They
may also carry their heads low and stay
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very close to water sources. They
will continue to eat, but as the
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disease progresses, they'll consume less and
less food, and this leads to loss
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of body condition. Essentially, the
animal starves to death. In the final
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state, ages excessive drinking, urination, salivation, and drooling are commonly observed.
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The animal may survive for a few
days to a year once these symptoms
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appear, due to difficulty swallowing aspiration. Pneumonia may be the final cause of
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death in these animals. Hunters will
generally have the animals that they kill tested
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for CWED. Samples are taken from
the lymph nodes near the base of the
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skull and a specific portion of the
brainstone. Hunters don't usually harvest sick animals,
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so when these animals test positive,
they are found in the preclinical stage
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of infection. There have been instances
when people have found dead servits and have
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called fish and wildlife to test them, and these animals normally show signs of
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infection and will test positive for CWD. The prion can also be detected in
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the environment, but testing as difficult
and it isn't as reliable as testing dead
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animals. Eradication of CWED seems unlikely
since the pryon can survive in the environment
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for long periods of time. It
thrives well in soil that contains clay,
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and plants may be able to bind
the prions for uptake and distribution into leaves
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and stems. If this disease remains
unmanaged, affected areas can expand geographically and
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prevalence will grow among the herds that
free range those areas in Wisconsin and Wyoming
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where the prevalence is the highest.
Roughly forty to fifty percent of servids harvested
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and tested were positive for CWD.
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We would love to meet you. The
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known distribution of CWED in captive and
free ranging serviants continues on an upward trajectory.
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However it's underestimated, especially in wild
herds. It's easier to identify CWD
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in captive herds through surveillance and epidemiologic
investigations. As of July twenty nineteen,
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chronic wasting disease has been detected in
one hundred and twelve herds of captive deer
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and elk in seventeen states. Canada
has found one hundred and nine herds in
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four provinces. South Korea imported the
disease in nineteen ninety seven, and it's
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been found in that country in captive
elk, red deer, and sika deer.
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CWED has been found in wild servits
in twenty four states across the US,
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and in Alberta and Saskatchewan in Canada. Norway has a history of chronic
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wasting disease in deer that could be
tracked back to the early nineteen hundreds,
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but the first cases in caribou and
reindeer were found in twenty sixteen. It's
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also been found in wild moose in
Finland and Sweden. There has been considerable
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research done on animals that may come
into contact with the carcasses of servits that
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die from CWED. Testing on wild
carnivores and omnivores have yielded no positive animals.
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This tells us that the prion hasn't
jumped into those species. Cattle that
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were housed with infect and mule deer
for ten years did not develop the disease.
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But then there are pigs. Pigs
seem to be the deal breakers on
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a lot of things. An experiment
on pigs was done to see if they
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could be inoculated orally or inoculated directly
into the brain with material from affected deer.
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When the research was done, it
was found that even though pigs have
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a high resistance to the priyon,
it still may be possible for swine to
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serve as a reservoir for CWD under
natural conditions. That said, there are
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other tss that can be transmitted from
animals to humans, and because the pryon
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could mutate and jump, wildlife management
professionals recommend that hunter's harvesting deer in affected
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areas, meat processors an taxidermists who
handle servid carcasses takes some common sense measures
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to avoid exposure to the pryon and
other pathogens that they may come in contact
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with. These precautions include do not
shoot, handle, or consume any animal
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that is acting abnormally or appears to
be sick. Contact the local Game and
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Fish department to report these animals.
Wear latex or rubber gloves when field dressing
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your harvest. Bone out the meat
from your animal don't saw through bone,
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and avoid cutting through the brain or
the spinal column. Minimize handling of the
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brain and spinal tissues. Wash your
hands the cause of death one hundred seconds
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to midnight mantra, and wash your
instruments thoroughly. After field dressing is completed.
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Instruments, cutting boards, and other
items used for processing should be soaked
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for five minutes in a forty percent
solution of sold bleach to inactivate the prions.
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However, the items must be completely
clean with absolutely no tissue or organic
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manner present for this to be effective. Avoid consuming the brain, spinal cord,
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eyes, spleen, tonsils, and
lymph nodes of harvested animals. Note
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that normal field dressing and boning out
of the carcass will remove most, if
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not all, of these parts,
and cutting away all the fatty tissue will
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remove the remaining lymph nodes. If
you have an animal that has tested positive
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for CWD, don't eat it.
Just don't. Honestly, we don't know
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enough about prions to be sure that
cooking the animal will thoroughly kill them off.
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If you have your animal process commercially, request that your animal be processed
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individually. Ask them not to mix
and match with someone else's harvest. This
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disease will be difficult to control.
First of all, we're dealing with millions
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of wild servids. There are thirty
six million wild deer in the United States
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alone. That's a lot of animals
to control and monitor. Then we have
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the biggest problem. There is no
cure and no vaccine today. Vaccines have
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only prolonged the incubation period. They
haven't provided immunity. There is no treatment
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available. Though several anti virals and
anti malarial drugs have been tested, these
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drugs have had little to no effect
on the disease. Yes, this will
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be problematic. Long incubation periods,
extremely subtle signs of early clinical disease,
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absence of a reliable and practical anti
mortem diagnostic test, environmental contamination with an
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extremely resistant infectious agent, and incomplete
understanding of the transmission combined to put an
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insurmountable wallup when it comes to eradication
or even the control of CWD currently in
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wild populations. Primary prevention strategies include
regulation of herd movement and carcasses. These
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are the highest risk factors for introducing
chronic wasting disease into new areas. In
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captive facilities, management options are limited
to quarantine or elimination of infected animals.
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It remains to be seen whether or
not contaminated environments can ever be completely disinfected.
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Current recommendations for captive facilities include leaving
those pens unused for an extended period
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of time before introducing healthy animals back
into the environment. Free Ranging reservoirs near
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infected captive facilities could also severely impair
attempts at eradication from both populations of animals.
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In twenty fourteen, the USDA implemented
a CWD herd certification program in cooperation
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with state agencies regulating captive servids.
Participation in the program is mandatory for interstate
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shipping of any commercial captive animals.
Participation is voluntary for shooting enclosures, hobby
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farms, and other facilities where animals
will not be transported across state lines.
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The herd Certification program established minimal requirements, such as testing of all on site
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deaths over twelve months of age for
a five year period. This is necessary
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to a choir and maintain herd certification. Unfortunately, certificationism bulletproof an interstate infection
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from certified herds. Has been documented. Some states have taken it upon themselves
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to utter requirements for certification of captive
herds for interstate shipping. In areas where
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CWED may not yet be endemic,
eradication of CWD is possible, but early
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detection is key to the goal.
Eradication attempts are now underway in an isolated
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mountainous region in Norway where CWED was
detected in wild reindeer in twenty sixteen.
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The prevalence in the herd was approximately
one percent, and Norwegian authorities believed that
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CWED was introduced recently, was detected
early, and eradication was feasible. The
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entire herd of approximately two thousand animals
was destroyed between twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen,
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and wild reindeer will not be introduced
into the area for several years.
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The mountainous terrain will keep the other
herds from immigrating into the area, so
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when reindeer are reintroduced, it will
be with the help of humans sustain Selective
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culling of deer in one of the
CWD affected areas of northern Illinois has successfully
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limited the prevalence and slowed the expansion
of the disease. States conduct long term,
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active surveillance programs to monitor CWD distribution
and prevalence in endemic areas, to
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determine the extent of the affected area, and to evaluate the effects of disease
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management efforts. In some areas,
supplemental feed minerals or baiting may be banned
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or regulated to limit the range expansion
of the disease and decreased transmission. If
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we're being honest, selective culling was
practiced throughout the original endemic areas of Colorado
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and Wyoming for many years, and
that approach proved insufficient to reduce the prevalence
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of the disease on a herd level. In those areas which have a high
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number of infected animals, an experimental
enzyme that was developed at the University of
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Nebraska Lincoln and Creighton University is commercially
available. Pri enzyme would be effective in
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degrading CWED prions in the soil,
and this could help limit the indirect disease
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transmission to deer end elk. In
twenty nineteen, Congress expressed a renewed interest
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in CWED. Legislation was developed in
the House of Representatives and the Senate to
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fund man management and research for CWED. Possible topics included evaluating the use of
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dogs to detect CWD, exploring targeted
sex and age class, removal of deer
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to reduce the spread and prevalence of
CWD, and characterizing and mapping CWD pryon
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strains across the US. Mark Zabel, who was one of my professors at
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CSU and has studied prions for years, has mewsed that fire could be the
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solution to prion disease in the soil. I've included some of doctor Zabel's papers
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in the show notes. If you're
interested in pryon's go check them out.
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Doctor Zabel is now thinking that the
disease didn't begin in the Mountain West,
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he told MPR. Quote most of
the outbreaks in the US can be traced
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back to movement of animals on the
game farms from the front rank age to
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places like Saskatchewan in Canada, to
the Midwest and Wisconsin to South Dakota repopulation
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in Arkansas. But then there are
some that have no known connection end quote.
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The prime example was the outbreak in
twenty sixteen in Norway, then Finland
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and Sweden. Those animals had absolutely
no connection with any of the herds in
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the US or Canada. This brings
us to the hypothesis there may be many
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different strains of CWED, and those
strains could be emerging at different times worldwide.
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Zabel and his colleague Caitlin Wagner,
a PhD candidate in microbiology at CSU,
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are looking into the possibility by comparing
prions from infected deer in Texas with
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infected elk in Colorado. They're also
comparing deer and elk from seven other dates.
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Wagner explained to NPR, quote,
if they are different, this would
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suggest that we have different strain proper, which is evidence we're building our case
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that we may have multiple strains of
CWD circulating in the US end quote.
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The first step is to see if
a chemical called guandine destroys both samples with
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relative ease. We must remember that
the shape of a prion dictates everything about
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it, including the way it interacts
with animal cells and the ease with which
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chemicals can unfold the protein. In
the experiment that was observed by NPR,
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the prions from the Texas deer were
a lot harder to destroy than the Colorado
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elk strongly suggesting that Zabel and Wagner
were looking at two different strains of the
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disease. This research is still in
its infancy, so many more experi aramons
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must be done, but it's one
step closer to evaluating the disease and explaining
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some of the gaps in the original
story. Doctor Zabel ended the interview with
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a grave warning quote, if it's
still evolving, it may still evolve into
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a form that could potentially eventually affect
humans. End quote. That's some scary
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food for thought. I'm not sure
that chronic wasting disease will ever be under
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control, not without some very drastic
measures. If we let it take its
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course, the disease will spread and
possibly jump to domestic animals then people.
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If we eradicate entire herds, that
could be horrible for the environment. Hunters
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would have a fit, and so
would many animal welfare groups. It's a
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very sticky situation and there are no
easy answers. I do encourage you to
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read the show notes if you're interested
in chronic wasting disease. There are papers
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in there from several researchers, government
documents from the Department of Interior, news
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articles and so much more. Much
of this is repetitive, but it's nice
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to see that several groups are in
league to eradicate this disease that's so harmful
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to serve its. That wraps up
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Here we are in season six.
This season is dedicated to wildlife disease
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and concert. I've been trying to
keep the seasons at about eight episodes,
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but this one may run a little
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when we talk about wildlife disease and
conservation and the way they come together.
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I'll be introducing some things that we
haven't talked about previously. Many of the
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diseases of wildlife are obscured, and
though the symptoms may sound like a virus
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or a bacterial infection, they could
be something completely different. And this brings
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us to today's episode, chronic wasting
disease in servids. It's caused by an
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organism that we haven't talked about before. It's a prion. I'm the first
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to admit that I am terrified of
prions. They're unpredictable, they're incurable,
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and they're fatal. The worst thing
about them is that they take years to
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manifest, so you don't know you
have one until it's too late to do
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much about at it sound terrifying.
Keep listening. We'll begin, of course,
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with ideology and pathology. To start
at the beginning, we have to
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figure out what a prion is.
Prions only consist of proteins. There is
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no enclosed nucleic acid. They share
superficial properties of viruses, such as size
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and infectiousness, but that's as close
to a virus as they get. Prions
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have unique properties that are capable of
causing inherited, spontaneous or infectious disease.
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The prion protein PRP exists in two
confirmations, the normal harmless or cellular form
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PrPC and the pathogenic form prp SC. This form was named after scrapey,
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which is an infectious disease of sheet
I'll get to scrape in a little bit
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when I talk about the history of
chronic wasting disease, and you know there's
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going to be an episode on it
in the future when I talk about diseases
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of livestock. Trust me, the
connection between CWED and scrapey will be apparent
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before you hit stop on your podcast
player. The mechanism of disease for prions
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is very different from bacteria or viruses. It's more like peer pressure than an
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all out invasion, rogue proteins will
bind to their normal relatives and induce them
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to refold into the pathogenic confirmation.
The proteins that were misfolded to begin with
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will eventually subvert all of the normal
proteins. Once this is done, neural
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degeneration and death occur. The gene
that encodes the prion protein, the pr
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NP, can mutate, and this
may result in prions with a very high
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likelihood of misfolding. This is the
cause of hereditary prion disease. Normal prions
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are known to misfold occasionally, and
this is called spontaneous prion disease. Pathogenic
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misfolded proteins form insoluble aggregates known as
amyloids. These are fibrils consisting of protein
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with a high beta sheet content.
These beta sheets are short and form stacks
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that run sideways relative to the long
axis of the fibers. If misfolded prions
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are transmitted to another susceptible host,
the result is infectious prion disease. This
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is also called transmissible spongiform encephalopathy or
TS. This infection can be spread from
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one cell to another and one animal
to another by entry of the PRP SC
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prion. These prions can also jump
from one species to another. Did I
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mention that prions scare the crap atomy? I'm mentioning that now, right now,
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there is no effective therapy to combat
prion infection. Okay, so now
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you have the down and dirty on
prions. Let's get to chronic wasting disease.
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CWD is highly contagious. As the
infected animals shed infectious prions in feces,
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saliva, and urine, other servids
come along and pick it up.
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It's one of the most easily spread
prion infections. Again, there is no
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treatment or cure for prion infections,
but of course research is ongoing. All
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servid species are susceptible to CWD,
and this disease has spread across wild North
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American servid populations for decades. So
what is a servid? Servid species in
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North America include whitetailed deer, mule
deer or blacktailed deer, l moose,
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caribou, and reindeer. Chronic wasting
disease is a long term illness. Animals
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may remain healthy for a year or
more, but they're still shedding the disease
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and other servits are picking it up. As the disease progresses, animals show
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signs of weight loss, decreased social
interaction with the herd, loss of awareness,
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altered posture, head tremors, and
lack of coordination. CWD affects the
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brain nerves, lymph nodes, spleen, and neuroendocrin tissues. Diagnosis requires laboratory
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testing of the lymph nodes and brain
stem, and these samples must be collected
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postmortem. Live animal techniques do exist, but they're difficult to perform and they
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have a very low success rate.
We don't really know what effect CWD has
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on the wild servit population in North
America, as it can take several years
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for the disease to become evident.
Research and modeling studies published in the last
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ten years have shown that declines in
population are between ten and twenty one percent
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in several deer and elk populations.
This includes herds in Wyoming, Colorado,
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and Wisconsin. Okay, this is
one of those times when it's better to
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go back to the beginning and move
forward. You have the basic mechanism of
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disease, so that's a good start. The classic origin story of chronic wasting
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disease is that it originated at my
alma mater, Colorado State University. This
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story is now being disputed by researchers, but you'll have to wait for that
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part. Researchers were doing nutritional studies
on sheep, goats, and deer.
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Jene Schollenveld, a researcher at Colorado
State, suspects that some of the sheep
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had scrapeeet and the deer in the
experiment became infected. The prion then jumped
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after mutation and became what we call
chronic wasting disease. The deer and sheep
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were kept in the same pen from
nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy one.
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None of the animals in the experiment
ever showed symptoms of prion disease, and
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when the experiment was over, the
deer were simply released back into the wild.
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The sheep that he used came from
a scrapy experiment, but none of
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them ever showed symptoms of having the
disease. The first cases were reported after
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this experiment ended, in captive deer
that were being held on the research farm
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in Fort Collins, Colorado. Wild
populations didn't start showing symptoms until the late
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seventies and This was believed to be
malnutrition. The first confirmed diagnosis wasn't made
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until nineteen eighty one. In an
elk in Rocky Mountain Nation Park. In
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the mid eighties, researchers decided that
they were going to get rid of CWD.
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They gathered all the captives servits and
they killed them. They cleaned the
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pens and turned the soil, and
brought a helicopter in to drop chlorine onto
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the site. They didn't put animals
back in those pens for a full year
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after that. Then they brought in
healthy wild elk calves. Within two years,
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chronic wasting disease was back and the
herd was decimated. Michael Miller and
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his colleagues had failed. In an
interview with NPR, he said, quote,
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the idea at the time was that
we would do what we needed to
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do here locally to keep it from
spreading to the western slope. What we
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didn't realize is that it was actually
more widespread. It was a really nice
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idea that was probably ten, fifteen, maybe twenty years too late. End
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quote. Mule deer were then diagnosed
with the disease in both Colorado and Wyoming
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by the mid nineteen nineties, it
had spread to captive herds in Saskatchewan,
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Canada. By the year two thousand, it had spread to Nebraska, Oklahoma,
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and wild herds in Saskatchewan. In
two thousand and one, CWD was
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identified in whitetailed deer in South Dakota
and in a captive herd in Nebraska.
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By two thousand and twelve, it
had spread to Minnesota, Wisconsin, New
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Mexico, Utah, Illinois, Kansas, Virginia, North Dakota, Iowa,
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Pennsylvania, and Texas. It was
found in Ohio in twenty fourteen. In
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two thousand and fifteen, Michigan confirmed
its first case. Researchers began sampling animals
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from five to fifty kilometers outside the
facility, and most of the infections were
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occurring within the five kilometer radius.
Chronic wasting disease has an extended incubation period.
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While the exact time of incubation is
unknown, it's estimated that the priyon
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works its misfolding magic for about six
to eight months before symptoms begin. Then
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the animal can live for up to
two years before finally succumbing to the disease.
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Symptoms are often more subtle in elk
than in deer, but they remain
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the same. The animals may walk
repetitive courses, show in coordination, and
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have a wide based stance. They
may also carry their heads low and stay
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very close to water sources. They
will continue to eat, but as the
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disease progresses, they'll consume less and
less food, and this leads to loss
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of body condition. Essentially, the
animal starves to death. In the final
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state, ages excessive drinking, urination, salivation, and drooling are commonly observed.
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The animal may survive for a few
days to a year once these symptoms
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appear, due to difficulty swallowing aspiration. Pneumonia may be the final cause of
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death in these animals. Hunters will
generally have the animals that they kill tested
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for CWED. Samples are taken from
the lymph nodes near the base of the
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skull and a specific portion of the
brainstone. Hunters don't usually harvest sick animals,
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so when these animals test positive,
they are found in the preclinical stage
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of infection. There have been instances
when people have found dead servits and have
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called fish and wildlife to test them, and these animals normally show signs of
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infection and will test positive for CWD. The prion can also be detected in
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the environment, but testing as difficult
and it isn't as reliable as testing dead
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animals. Eradication of CWED seems unlikely
since the pryon can survive in the environment
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for long periods of time. It
thrives well in soil that contains clay,
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and plants may be able to bind
the prions for uptake and distribution into leaves
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and stems. If this disease remains
unmanaged, affected areas can expand geographically and
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prevalence will grow among the herds that
free range those areas in Wisconsin and Wyoming
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where the prevalence is the highest.
Roughly forty to fifty percent of servids harvested
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and tested were positive for CWD.
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We would love to meet you. The
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known distribution of CWED in captive and
free ranging serviants continues on an upward trajectory.
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However it's underestimated, especially in wild
herds. It's easier to identify CWD
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in captive herds through surveillance and epidemiologic
investigations. As of July twenty nineteen,
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chronic wasting disease has been detected in
one hundred and twelve herds of captive deer
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and elk in seventeen states. Canada
has found one hundred and nine herds in
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four provinces. South Korea imported the
disease in nineteen ninety seven, and it's
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been found in that country in captive
elk, red deer, and sika deer.
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CWED has been found in wild servits
in twenty four states across the US,
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and in Alberta and Saskatchewan in Canada. Norway has a history of chronic
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wasting disease in deer that could be
tracked back to the early nineteen hundreds,
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but the first cases in caribou and
reindeer were found in twenty sixteen. It's
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also been found in wild moose in
Finland and Sweden. There has been considerable
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research done on animals that may come
into contact with the carcasses of servits that
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die from CWED. Testing on wild
carnivores and omnivores have yielded no positive animals.
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This tells us that the prion hasn't
jumped into those species. Cattle that
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were housed with infect and mule deer
for ten years did not develop the disease.
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But then there are pigs. Pigs
seem to be the deal breakers on
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a lot of things. An experiment
on pigs was done to see if they
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could be inoculated orally or inoculated directly
into the brain with material from affected deer.
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When the research was done, it
was found that even though pigs have
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a high resistance to the priyon,
it still may be possible for swine to
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serve as a reservoir for CWD under
natural conditions. That said, there are
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other tss that can be transmitted from
animals to humans, and because the pryon
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could mutate and jump, wildlife management
professionals recommend that hunter's harvesting deer in affected
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areas, meat processors an taxidermists who
handle servid carcasses takes some common sense measures
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to avoid exposure to the pryon and
other pathogens that they may come in contact
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with. These precautions include do not
shoot, handle, or consume any animal
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that is acting abnormally or appears to
be sick. Contact the local Game and
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Fish department to report these animals.
Wear latex or rubber gloves when field dressing
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your harvest. Bone out the meat
from your animal don't saw through bone,
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and avoid cutting through the brain or
the spinal column. Minimize handling of the
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brain and spinal tissues. Wash your
hands the cause of death one hundred seconds
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to midnight mantra, and wash your
instruments thoroughly. After field dressing is completed.
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Instruments, cutting boards, and other
items used for processing should be soaked
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for five minutes in a forty percent
solution of sold bleach to inactivate the prions.
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However, the items must be completely
clean with absolutely no tissue or organic
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manner present for this to be effective. Avoid consuming the brain, spinal cord,
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eyes, spleen, tonsils, and
lymph nodes of harvested animals. Note
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that normal field dressing and boning out
of the carcass will remove most, if
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not all, of these parts,
and cutting away all the fatty tissue will
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remove the remaining lymph nodes. If
you have an animal that has tested positive
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for CWD, don't eat it.
Just don't. Honestly, we don't know
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enough about prions to be sure that
cooking the animal will thoroughly kill them off.
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If you have your animal process commercially, request that your animal be processed
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individually. Ask them not to mix
and match with someone else's harvest. This
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disease will be difficult to control.
First of all, we're dealing with millions
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of wild servids. There are thirty
six million wild deer in the United States
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alone. That's a lot of animals
to control and monitor. Then we have
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the biggest problem. There is no
cure and no vaccine today. Vaccines have
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only prolonged the incubation period. They
haven't provided immunity. There is no treatment
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available. Though several anti virals and
anti malarial drugs have been tested, these
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drugs have had little to no effect
on the disease. Yes, this will
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be problematic. Long incubation periods,
extremely subtle signs of early clinical disease,
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absence of a reliable and practical anti
mortem diagnostic test, environmental contamination with an
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extremely resistant infectious agent, and incomplete
understanding of the transmission combined to put an
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insurmountable wallup when it comes to eradication
or even the control of CWD currently in
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wild populations. Primary prevention strategies include
regulation of herd movement and carcasses. These
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are the highest risk factors for introducing
chronic wasting disease into new areas. In
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captive facilities, management options are limited
to quarantine or elimination of infected animals.
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It remains to be seen whether or
not contaminated environments can ever be completely disinfected.
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Current recommendations for captive facilities include leaving
those pens unused for an extended period
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of time before introducing healthy animals back
into the environment. Free Ranging reservoirs near
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infected captive facilities could also severely impair
attempts at eradication from both populations of animals.
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In twenty fourteen, the USDA implemented
a CWD herd certification program in cooperation
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with state agencies regulating captive servids.
Participation in the program is mandatory for interstate
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shipping of any commercial captive animals.
Participation is voluntary for shooting enclosures, hobby
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farms, and other facilities where animals
will not be transported across state lines.
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The herd Certification program established minimal requirements, such as testing of all on site
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deaths over twelve months of age for
a five year period. This is necessary
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to a choir and maintain herd certification. Unfortunately, certificationism bulletproof an interstate infection
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from certified herds. Has been documented. Some states have taken it upon themselves
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to utter requirements for certification of captive
herds for interstate shipping. In areas where
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CWED may not yet be endemic,
eradication of CWD is possible, but early
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detection is key to the goal.
Eradication attempts are now underway in an isolated
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mountainous region in Norway where CWED was
detected in wild reindeer in twenty sixteen.
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The prevalence in the herd was approximately
one percent, and Norwegian authorities believed that
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CWED was introduced recently, was detected
early, and eradication was feasible. The
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entire herd of approximately two thousand animals
was destroyed between twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen,
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and wild reindeer will not be introduced
into the area for several years.
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The mountainous terrain will keep the other
herds from immigrating into the area, so
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when reindeer are reintroduced, it will
be with the help of humans sustain Selective
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culling of deer in one of the
CWD affected areas of northern Illinois has successfully
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limited the prevalence and slowed the expansion
of the disease. States conduct long term,
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active surveillance programs to monitor CWD distribution
and prevalence in endemic areas, to
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determine the extent of the affected area, and to evaluate the effects of disease
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management efforts. In some areas,
supplemental feed minerals or baiting may be banned
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or regulated to limit the range expansion
of the disease and decreased transmission. If
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we're being honest, selective culling was
practiced throughout the original endemic areas of Colorado
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and Wyoming for many years, and
that approach proved insufficient to reduce the prevalence
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of the disease on a herd level. In those areas which have a high
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number of infected animals, an experimental
enzyme that was developed at the University of
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Nebraska Lincoln and Creighton University is commercially
available. Pri enzyme would be effective in
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degrading CWED prions in the soil,
and this could help limit the indirect disease
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transmission to deer end elk. In
twenty nineteen, Congress expressed a renewed interest
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in CWED. Legislation was developed in
the House of Representatives and the Senate to
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fund man management and research for CWED. Possible topics included evaluating the use of
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dogs to detect CWD, exploring targeted
sex and age class, removal of deer
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to reduce the spread and prevalence of
CWD, and characterizing and mapping CWD pryon
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strains across the US. Mark Zabel, who was one of my professors at
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CSU and has studied prions for years, has mewsed that fire could be the
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solution to prion disease in the soil. I've included some of doctor Zabel's papers
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in the show notes. If you're
interested in pryon's go check them out.
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Doctor Zabel is now thinking that the
disease didn't begin in the Mountain West,
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he told MPR. Quote most of
the outbreaks in the US can be traced
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back to movement of animals on the
game farms from the front rank age to
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places like Saskatchewan in Canada, to
the Midwest and Wisconsin to South Dakota repopulation
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in Arkansas. But then there are
some that have no known connection end quote.
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The prime example was the outbreak in
twenty sixteen in Norway, then Finland
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and Sweden. Those animals had absolutely
no connection with any of the herds in
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the US or Canada. This brings
us to the hypothesis there may be many
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different strains of CWED, and those
strains could be emerging at different times worldwide.
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Zabel and his colleague Caitlin Wagner,
a PhD candidate in microbiology at CSU,
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are looking into the possibility by comparing
prions from infected deer in Texas with
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infected elk in Colorado. They're also
comparing deer and elk from seven other dates.
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Wagner explained to NPR, quote,
if they are different, this would
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suggest that we have different strain proper, which is evidence we're building our case
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that we may have multiple strains of
CWD circulating in the US end quote.
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The first step is to see if
a chemical called guandine destroys both samples with
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relative ease. We must remember that
the shape of a prion dictates everything about
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it, including the way it interacts
with animal cells and the ease with which
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chemicals can unfold the protein. In
the experiment that was observed by NPR,
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the prions from the Texas deer were
a lot harder to destroy than the Colorado
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elk strongly suggesting that Zabel and Wagner
were looking at two different strains of the
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disease. This research is still in
its infancy, so many more experi aramons
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must be done, but it's one
step closer to evaluating the disease and explaining
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some of the gaps in the original
story. Doctor Zabel ended the interview with
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a grave warning quote, if it's
still evolving, it may still evolve into
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a form that could potentially eventually affect
humans. End quote. That's some scary
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food for thought. I'm not sure
that chronic wasting disease will ever be under
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control, not without some very drastic
measures. If we let it take its
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course, the disease will spread and
possibly jump to domestic animals then people.
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If we eradicate entire herds, that
could be horrible for the environment. Hunters
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would have a fit, and so
would many animal welfare groups. It's a
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very sticky situation and there are no
easy answers. I do encourage you to
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read the show notes if you're interested
in chronic wasting disease. There are papers
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in there from several researchers, government
documents from the Department of Interior, news
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articles and so much more. Much
of this is repetitive, but it's nice
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to see that several groups are in
league to eradicate this disease that's so harmful
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to serve its. That wraps up
another episode of Cause of Death one hundred
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